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Anti-Semitism Sicknes that non Jews Suffer, or part of our human rights?

Poul Erik Skammelsen TV2 præsenterer kontroversen om Torben Lund
Poul Erik Skammelsen TV2


Torben Lund
Sozialdemokrat und Mitglied des Europäischen Parlaments
(getragen 1950)

Torben Lund , das unter anderem für Homosexual öffentlich sein bekannt, hat Kontroverse in seinem eigenen Sozialdemokratbeteiligten vor verursacht, als er verlangte, daß die Leute von den realen Konsequenzen der neuen EU-Beschaffenheit informiert sein sollten, anstatt sneaking gerade diese weitreichenden Entscheidungen durch die rückseitige Tür ohne irgendeine ehrliche und geöffnete allgemeine Diskussion.

Torben Lund hat auf das demokratische Defizit in den Organen des europäischen Anschlußes gezeigt.
Er war innerhalb der demokratischen sozialpartei wegen dieses sehr unpopulär und wurde mit einem Auftrag belohnt, um oben zu schließen.

 

Bent Melchior B'nai B'rith formand og fhv overrabbiner Far til Michael Melchior medlem af det israelske parlament Knesset.
Verbogenes Melchior
Präsident von B'nai B'rith I Danmark
ehemaliges Hauptrabbi.
Eins seiner Ideale ist der jüdische Philosoph Maimonides , über den Professor Kevin MacDonald sagt (Maus rüber)

Verbogenes Melchior, das, gerade wie sein Bruder Arne viel Energie investierte, wenn er moslemische Immigration nach Dänemark förderte:

" anti-Semitism ist eine Krankheit, die Gentiles erleiden und Juden sterben an.",

 

Kenneth Jacobson - Anti defamation League
Kenneth Jacobson
Vizepräsident
Ein efamation L eague des nti D

Ich berechne, daß Herr Jacobson überhaupt nicht die verhältnismässig respectless Weise mag seine "Nächstenliebeorganisation" auf dänischem Fernsehen bildlich dargestellt wurde.

Nur einem Juden wird erlaubt, Judewitze nach rechts zu erklären?

Lassen Sie uns hoffen, daß er nicht herausfindet. Andernfalls müssen wir fürchten, daß er eine große Delegation der Lobbyisten sendet, das Willensswarm dieses anmaßende kleine Land, zwecks zu unterrichten uncircumcised Landarbeiter Viking, wie man ihre Leben lebt und wie man Anti-Semitism definiert, um die Welt von Gentiles freizugeben, die trauen, die gleichen Rechte wie Juden zu verlangen...

 

Tøger Seidenfaden Politiken
Tøger Seidenfaden
Hauptherausgeber Politiken

Christian Kock Professor i Retorik
Christliches Kock
Professor I Rethorics


Leitartikel I Jyllands Posten Scandalous wo Torben Lund mit og Julius Streicher Der Stürmer verglichen wird :

Gestern versuchte er, sich in dieser Zeitung zu rechtfertigen, aber verschob nur weiteres heraus auf einem Glied.

Jetzt RAP er über ehemaliges Hauptrabbi verbogenes Melchior, das ein "Netz" und eine "internationale Organisation" und eine Schlupfstellenkampagne begonnen wird. Von gibt es ihr nicht zum schlechtesten aller anti-Semitic conspirational clichés über die Juden sehr weit, welche die Welt von hinten das Stadium laufen lassen .

Es kann rauh klingen, aber es gibt keine Weise um Bestätigenthet Lund hat ein inneres congeniality mit Nazi-Nazi-propagandist Julius Streicher , der die detestable Flugschrift "Der Stürmer" redigierte.

Læs våset fra Jødelands-Posten, gernevilovertagePolitikens des der åbenbart rolle (tidligere).
Leder: Geschichte Hadefuld (18 Major 2004)

øvrigtkønt Det er i des hvadsomhelst I des Mannes am kan skrive leder en sådan, forblive Anonymus des ogovenikøbet, skal underskrive des menshveren-sølleborger med navnogadresse.

Er detmonstunde Juste, skrevetdennesindsygeartikel des der har?

Ikkeoftejegforsvarer-en-socialdemokrat Det er, Männer sie er blevetgjort Torben Lund und storturet. Lundburdeanlæggesenkung, da artiklen er æreskrænkende.
Bloßes så-Ende betegnelsen des tilfalderenhverder "antisemit" dersomMelchior hårdnakket påstår somenkeltpersonersomgruppeeller des kritik på Jøder har kritik på Israel des har.

Derforjegsynesdeter rimeligt Det er am og Antisemitisme DaubeAntisemit med stort, ligesomordet Jøde, Sigselvjohellerikkesigermegetom des der I (Jødedom) und menneskeskvaliteter.

Des redaktøroglignendekritiskindstilledepersonerjævnlig får personersomderesUpps am tildeltdennebetegnelse; det er VI vant bis, ja, kan endda des jeg haben en-Vis forståelse für det; Männer deledenneskæbneligneren-kraftigeskalationaf-Denjødiskekrigsførelse des nu også en-mandsomTorben Lund am skal.

Denzionistiskekrigstrompetlyder: " Aldrig bloß! ".
SomMentalt Paradigme af Holocaust Henry Makow > >

Debat: EUBøRLæGGE fløjlshandsken ogindføreboykot af Israel (Indlæg af Torben Lund I Politiken 3-5-04)

Major JP 21 Læserbrev 2004 af Hans Lembøl: Ny Betydning Antisemit I

Major 2004 Politiken 15. Indlæg af Torben Lund: Stoppen Sie statsterroristen Sharon

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Nach der Angelegenheit Hohmann in Deutschland , in den furious jüdischen Reaktionen gegen Mel Gibson und im neuesten jüdischen Angriff gegen den dänischen Vicar Sören Krarup , der Aufladungen von anti-Semitism gegen durch den dänischen jüdischen Expolitiker Arne Melchior umfaßte , jetzt die neuesten Entwicklungen im anscheinend nie Endkampf gegen Gentile Dänemark.

Dieses Mal war es verbogenes Melchior , Bruder Arne Melchiors, der die Behauptungen gegen den dänischen Sozialdemokratpolitiker und das Mitglied des Europäischen Parlaments Torben Lund bildete .

Es ist allgemeines Wissen, das verbogenes Melchior der Präsident des dänischen Bruches der militanten jüdischen Organisation B'nai B'rith und ein ehemaliges Hauptrabbi ist. Er ist auch der Vater von Michael Melchior , Mitglied eines frommen israelischen Beteiligten und besetzt einen Sitz in der israelischen Parlamentknesset.

In einem Artikel im dänischen angerufenen Israeli ZeitungsPolitiken 3 Premierminister 2004 des Majors Torben Lund Ariel Sharon " der größte Terrorist im mittleren Osten" und beschuldigt dem Zustand von Israel von Commiting genocide .

Provozierend schrieb er: "gerade rufen Sie mich einen Anti-Semite" an - weil er vorwegnahm, daß jüdische Organisationen ihn für genau die beschuldigen würden; anti-Semitism .

Und er mußte nicht sehr lang warten. Die dänische Zeitung Jyllands Posten , die den Titel Jewlands Posten nachher verdienen kann, hatte die folgende Anmerkung in einem redaktionellen Mai 18 2004 :

Jetzt RAP er über ehemaliges Hauptrabbi verbogenes Melchior, das ein "Netz" und eine "internationale Organisation" und eine Schlupfstellenkampagne begonnen wird. Von gibt es ihr nicht zum schlechtesten aller anti-Semitic conspirational clichés über die Juden sehr weit, welche die Welt von hinten das Stadium laufen lassen .

It may sound harsh, but there is no way around acknowledging thet Lund has an inner congeniality with Nazi-propagandist Julius Streicher, who edited the detestable pamphlet "Der Stürmer". More in left collumn or click

The next day the Danish TV station TV2 paid attention to the controversy in the program Today (Dags Dato), where we actually got proof for the existence of a worldwide network of Jewish organizations, and if not the proof that Jews are running the world, at least proof that the Jews are attempting to do so.

Poul Erik Skammelsen TV2:

Is Social Democrat politician Torben Lund an anti-Semite?
That is, is he according to the definition of the Danish dictionary anti-Jewish; hostile to Jews in general?

Yes, Lund is an anti-Semite alrigh, says former chief Rabbi Bent Melchior, and several others after a newspaper comment Lund wrote about Israel. But is this anti-Semitism, or has "anti-Semitism become" a concept which is used to shut up critics of the state of Israel, Ole Vestergaard (TV journalist) asks in this program.

Transcription of
TV2 Today Broadcast
(Dags Dato)
Wednesday 19 maj 2004
about Torben Lund
(Member of the Coucil of Europe for the Danish Social Democrats)

Broadcast can be viewed here


Poul Erik
Skammelsen

studievært

Poul erik Skammelsen - studievært TV2 Dags Dato & Nyhederne

Is Social Democrat politician Torben Lund anti-Semite?
That is, is he according to the definition of the Danish dictionary anti-Jewish; hostile to Jews in general?

Yes, Lund is an anti-Semite alright, says former chief Rabbi Bent Melchior, and several others after a newspaper article Lund wrote about Israel.

But is this anti-Semitism, or has "anti-Semitism become" a concept which is used to shut up critics of the state of Israel, asks Ole Vestergaard (TV2 journalist) in this program.

Ole Vestergaard
journalist TV2
Speaker voice

It all began when Torben Lund wrote an article in the Danish newspaper Politiken May 3. In the article he hit hard against Israel's Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

"Ariel Sharon certainly is the person in the Palestine conflict who tops the list of terrorists."

Torben Lund
Social Democrat

I believe he acts like a state terrorist, and that he has committed numerous atrocities against the Palestinian people as an occupying power.

Ole Vestergaard journalist TV2

Torben Lund also wrote: "Every time somebody voices criticism there is an outcry from the Jewish communities, that this is an expression of anti-Semitism".

It is important to observe these three words, "the Jewish communities".
Not "some Jewish communities" or "some Jews", but "the Jewish communities".
Taken very strictly this is a generalization of all Jews.

Anyway, the words had come out of the box, and it didn't take long before the reactions poured in from both far and near.

Former chief rabbi Bent Melchior calls the statement for "pure anti-Semitism".

Bent Melchior
rabbiner

Lund has made it into something that denotes that all Jews in the world are ready to come to the defence of Sharon. And that is, that, I, I better stick to the academic, is just not true.

Bent Melchior - rabbiner formand for B'nai B'rith
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Perhaps not, but in the next part Melchiors friends from the ADL drop in for a comment, and they make less of a secret of their sympathies for Sharon and his criminal gang....

Ole Vestergaard
journalist TV2

But not only home in Denmark the statements had been noticed. All the way down in New York from the Jewish organization ADL the "The Anti Defamation League" came reactions.

Kenneth Jacobson
Anti Defamation League

”To have a kind of article written by mr. Lund which is outrageous, in it’s charges against Israel and it’s prime minister eh is extremely distressing.

Ehm, it runs against what we hoped was a new tide in Europe to co..to take seriously anti-semitism, and instead this article really encourages and creates an incentive for more anti-semitism.

Kenneth Jacobson ADL - Anti defamation League
Ole Vestergaard
journalist TV2

With that Lund is right at least so far, that some Jews call him an anti-Semite if he calls Sharon a terorist.

Kenneth Jacobson
ADL

Lunds article comes in the context of several years of activity in Europe in which the new form of anti-semitism is the demonization of the state of Israel.

Ole Vestergaard
journalist TV2

We shall concentrate on what Lund wrote in Politiken: "The Jewish community cries out every time critizism is uttered, that it is an expression of anti-semitism."

At the newspaper Politiken editor-in-chief Töger Seidenfaden says about just that statement:

Tøger Seidenfaden
Tøger Seidenfaden - Chefredaktør Politiken

"It is always wrong to generalize, but from there to saying that everything which purely linguistically is a generalization ia anti-Semitism or racism is taking it a bit too far.
Well, I think one has to say that if something is anti-Semitic, it will have to be insulting to Jews. The worst he says about them, as you mentioned yourself, is that they defend the state of Israel, and that does not seem insulting to me...

Ole Vestergaard
journalist TV2

But Bent Melchior calls it deregatory.


Bent Melchior
rabbi/ B'nai B'rith

Generalization here appears definetely in a derogatory context... aasah you can't mean that what Lund means is eh, that what Jews mean in that context, if they support Sharon, eh, then, eh, that it is positive.

Ole Vestergaard
journalist TV2

He says Melchior hurts his own case by using the word anti-Semitism.

According to Melchior anti-Semitism is an illness that Gentiles suffer and Jews die from.

We seek professional advice, at the University of Copenhagen we find professor in rethorics Christian Kock.

Christian Kock
phd. rethorics

Torben Lund has not said that all Jews have bad or negative qualities.
He has just said that all Jews throw themselves over him.
That is wrong, but it is not racist.

Ole Vestergaard journalist TV2

But isn't it also positive, positive about the Jews that they defend themselves?

Christian Kock
phd. rethorics
Christian Kock professor RhetoricsCopenhagen University

Yes, one could argue that, it is hundred percent legitemate to throw oneself over Torben Lunds points of view, and there are also many Jews who do so, although it is not all Jews who do. In that way he hasn't said anything wrong, (Journalist: but not anti-semitic), but nothing anti-Semitic.

Bent Melchior
rabbi

It is clear, clear anti-Semitism, and you can bring me all professors, eh it changes nothing about eh...

Ole Vestergaard
journalist TV2

But is it only you [Jews] who have the right to define anti-Semitism?

Bent Melchior
rabbi

Nooooooh, that isn't soooo, but it has been us who have been killed for it..., and because of that we are perhaps eh, more expert on the subject.

Melchior / Vestergaard

blah, blah blah...about feelings. [Mechior show a quick succession of changes in facial expression.]

Ole Vestergaard journalist TV2

Back to Torben Lund who, by a making a few changes could have avoided accusations for being an anti-Semite.

Torben Lund
Social Democrat

torben Lund Europa Parliament Social Democrats

I think this is completely wrong, when I write "the Jewish community" I mean of course those who organize themselves and take part in the debate, and it was precisely Bent Melchior and his network I among other things was thinking about.

There are similar networks in many countries, and again in the USA there are very, very strong eh, organizations. That every time eh, one criticizes Sharon get involved, and the word anti-Semite lies lurking. Sometimes it is being said, sometimes it's not being said directly.

How did the "Anti Defamation League" get involved?
Ole Vestergaard journalist TV2

But one can perhaps be surprised about the fact that Torben Lund's statements are intercepted by "The Anti Defamation League" i New York.

Kenneth Jacobson
Anti Defamation League

These days it’s not very hard to have information. It’s all over the Internet... We also ehm work closely with human rights groups and jewish communities all over the world...
All of us are concerned about the massive rise of antisemitism......

Ole Vestergaard journalist TV2

For "The League" there is no doubt about anti-Semitism getting worse lately....

Kenneth Jacobson
Anti Defamation League:

In the last three years we have seen the greatest outbursts of antisemitism around the world since the holocaust..........

Ole Vestergaard
journalist TV2

............But if that is true, it is also true that the word "anti-Semite" is beginning to be used in a more hap hazard way, like some kind of abuse which can stop people from speaking critically about Israel.

Has Melchior lost his better judgement here?

Christian Kock
phd. rethorics
Christian Kock professor RhetoricsCopenhagen University

It is starting to take it's toll on his judgement, if he wants to further understanding for Israel, I think he should tell us something about Israel, instead of using the anti-Semite stamp.


Bent Melchior
rabbi
Bent Melchior - rabbiner formand for B'nai B'rith

That I have used the expression..., that is simply not true, it goes against the truth... if that is being alleged.
It could be that smeone misuses it... Theh... they, it would be strange if there weren't ehm, diffent,... and precisely we are different..

Oh, your rethorics professor will have to accept that there are others who read the text just as I read it.

Torben Lund
Social Democrat

torben Lund Europa Parliament Social Democrats
There are scores of people who keep silent...., I have received many letters and mails from people who agree with me, but who don't hide that they eh, that it is difficult for them if they would join the debate, because ehm, they also will crucified for being, eh one thing and the other....
Tøger Seidenfaden
editor-in-chief

In stead of coming down exactly on what is wrong in what he writes, just drawing this club which is called "you are an anti-Semite" from his pocket. Thereby he derails the debate, and he abuses to my opinion a very very serious word.. which is the word anti-Semite.

The debate is derailing
Ole Vestergaard journalist TV2

That the debate is derailling is seen most clearly in a leading article in Jyllands Posten yesterday [18 maj 2004] which stated:

Quote from:
Jyllands Posten
Editorial: Hatespeech
Lunds attack has an inner congeniality with the infamous Nazi propagandist Julius Streicher who edited the horrible pamphlet "Der Stürmer".
Ole Vestergaard journalist TV2

Now we are speaking clear language..... Torben Lund is not only an anti-Semite, he is actually a Nazi!

Poul Erik
Skammelsen

Poul erik Skammelsen - studievært TV2 Dags Dato & Nyhederne

The before mentioned Jewish organization Anti Defamation League, has measured opinions in a number of European countries. In Denmark 16 % have anti-Semitic views, so this years scrutiny concludes, which is every sixth Dane..

That was the television broadcast..

Quite interesting, I think, if one studies it a bit in detail..... seeing the subjects on screen will further enhance our study of Jewish mentality.... and it's consequences. Video: mark Torben Lund on the menu.

Translation will be continued later....
Danish:

The Jewish lobby: Furious

Dan Tschernia jødisk journalist, TV Producer og anti-racist.
Dan Tschernia

How on the one side deny the existence of a Jewish network of power and connections, and on the other side spew your anger in Jyllands Posten, the newspaper which very courtuous has given as much of their paper and ink as they usually spend on all reader comments to furious Jews like the journalist Dan Tschernia.

 

 

I Jyllands Posten 21 maj 2004 Jøden Dan Tschernia raser: Antisemitismen er atter et problem i Europa

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